From: Dave Shaeffer [shaeff_d@bellsouth.net] Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 10:35 AM To: 928 Subject: [928] RE: Keith's paint resto project. Guys, gals, and others .... My best advise (and I guess we all know what that's worth) is to determine the total paint thickness _before_ using any abrasive compounds and/or electric/pneumatic polishers. If the car is clearcoated and you remove too much clear coat, you'll find your shiny "new" paint won't be that way very much longer. If it's not clearcoated, you can easily find yourself looking at a leopard-print paint job done in primer and whatever color it _was_. As I've said before (seems like at least a million and a half times), the typical factory paint job (including primers, color, and clear if used) is only 5-6 mils (0.005-0.006") thick. Some basic info/risk assessment/paint "repair": If total paint thickness is between 2-3.5 mills: Ether the primer is about to show or, if clear coated, the clear is nearly gone. Using any abrasives can be disastrous. If the paint is in fairly good shape (no deep scratches/gouges, excessively faded spots, etc.) the best bet is just to keep it waxed with a high quality, non-abrasive wax, limit exposure to sun and harsh elements, and you should get several more years of life out of it. If you simply can't live with that, then the next best thing to do is have 1.5-2 mils of urethane clearcoat shot over it. This will give you several years of good looks before you must repaint. If total paint thickness is between 3.5-5.5 mils: This is the normal thickness range for most factory paint jobs, and you should be able to "finesse" minor defects out, but if you're too aggressive, you can still easily ruin the paint. If total paint thickness is between 5.5-7.5 mils: This still may be a factory job (some cars are repainted at the factory or the dealer prior to shipment/sale), but you need to look carefully for signs of a repaint. Overspray, tape lines in the door jams, etc. However, if it's a repaint over the old paint, care must still be used, as unless you can determine exactly how thick the new color/clear coat is, you can go right through it to the old paint. If total paint thickness is between 7.5-9.5 mils: You're almost certainly looking at repaint. If the car was painted with a quality base/clear system, or garaged, or "living" up north, it may last several years before needing to be stripped and repainted. Again, if you cannot determine the thickness of the "new" paint over the old, proceed with caution. If total paint thickness is between 9.5-12.5 mils: Generally you're looking at a car that has at least _3_ paint jobs, one on top of the other. At this point, you'd be wise to ask what went wrong with the first and second paint jobs, and what's really underneath all that paint. Again, if it's garaged, and exposure to sun/the elements are limited, it may last several years, but cracking/peeling/flaking are very likely, as is a total strip and repaint. If total paint thickness is over 13 mils: Get your compressor in shape, and clean your paint gun. You have my sympathy. Paint thickness gauge: Get one. I find it a bit amusing that folks will think nothing of spending lots of money on "special" tools so they can save money doing their own wrenching, but when it comes to the next most expensive (after a motor or tranny) part of their car (a good paint job, some times worth more than the car itself), they balk a spending a few hundred bucks on a good paint thickness gauge that, with a bit of time, effort, and research, could save them _thousands_ of dollars, lots of time, and much heartache. Go figure. :) The gauges can range in price from $20.00 to $1500.00 or more. A good digital can be had for under $400.00. Of course, as they depend on electromagnetics to measure the thickness, they won't work on the aluminum panels of the 928, but the readings of the steel panels will give you an accurate reference for the rest of the car. But, if you have a small piece of steel of a known thickness you can hold to the underside of an aluminum panel, you can (using a bit of basic math) still determine paint thickness using a gauge. ;) However, be aware that the hood, tops of the fenders, roof (and all other horizontal panels) do degrade sooner than other parts of the car, as they are exposed more directly and more consistently to UV, and other harmful elements, so keep that in mind when taking any readings and/or doing any "finessing" on the paint. Damage, what to do: Cleaning/inspection. Thoroughly wash, rinse and dry the car. Inspect the car panel by panel. If the defects appear as though they're on the surface, try rubbing them with a bug/tar remover. Try any/all solvents on a hidden area first. If the solvent fails to remove the problem, next step is a fine polish. If the defect seems "crusty" or "corroded" (as is the case with acid rain type damage) first prep the area with a "glass" brush (this is a pen/pencil-like device with a bundle of glass fibers in place of the lead), this can even be used to remove small amounts of rust. Once the area is clean, take a few measurements inside the damaged area using a thickness gauge (Groits and other such place have these. Price varies with quality), record the readings, then take several readings of the surrounding area. If the damage is only a few tenths of a mil and the surrounding paint is thick enough, then finessing should work. If any of the defects are deeper, you may not want to try removing them totally. Deeper defects will look better if the surrounding paint is taken down a few tenths (if the paint is thick enough to do so) so there will be less of a "dip". If the defect is very small in diameter, then touch-up paint may be the best bet. Sanding: If the defect is larger, or needs more work, than the next step is sanding. Always use the finest grit that will remove the defect. I'd suggest starting with 2000 grit. You can always go heavier, but if you start too heavy, you can't go back. Why use super-fine paper and elbow grease when you can do it in 1/4 of the time with a buffer ??? CONTROL. A few tenths (of a thousandth) can mean the difference between fixing a defect and having to repaint the car or an entire panel. Even 1000 grit or a buffer with a "no-cut" compound can remove a lot of paint in short order. Always use a sanding block (size, shape and "hardness" will be determined by the size and location of the defect), as using your hand/fingers can/will leave "ruts" due to the pressure of your fingers. Even though these ruts may be shallow and "invisible", in direct sunlight and/or fluorescent lighting, they'll stand out like the Grand Canyon. It's best to wet-sand (use a drop or two of dish liquid in the water, as this also helps keep the paper from loading up), as it keeps the paper from loading up with paint, and helps wash away paint and grit from the paper with can add more scratches. Sand in one direction only (I'll explain later), rinse the paper and the defect area often, and use a second rubber block to squeegee clear the area every minute or two. This allows you to better access the progress, as the remaining defect shows up as shinier areas. Also, it's best to do this (or any paint/polish work) under fluorescent lighting as it this shows any defects much better than incandescent lighting. If you're not set up with good fluorescent lighting, the natural sunlight is the next best thing. When you're ready to change the paper, save the old piece (wash and rinse thoroughly), as a worn piece of, say 600 grit, can become finer than a fresh piece of 2000 grit, and piece of worn 2000 grit can become an ultra-fine 6000 grit. Polishing: Once as much of the defect as possible is removed via sanding, than it's time to polish to bring back the shine. If the last grit you used for sanding was 2000, you may be able to get away with using only one type ("grit") of polish/cleaner. It's best to do any polishing inside, as sand/dirt is easily blown onto the car by even the slightest breeze. Also, if possible, wet the floor before polishing to keep the dust/grit to a minimum. If you are going to polish by hand (strongly recommend unless you have a great deal of experience running a buffer on fine automotive finishes, regardless of what the guys selling the buffers tell you), or have a dark color paint, then you're probably going to end up using two steps for the polishing phase. The cloth: The best bet is 100% cotton (clean and sand/grit free, or course). Be aware that any synthetics (like nylon, rayon, dacron, etc) will scratch your paint, so remove any and all stitching/binding unless you're 100% sure it's cotton thread. Some of the new "micro-fibers" advertised may be O.K., but I have no first-hand experience with them. The Polish(es): Too bad the manufactures don't have any standards regarding rating/grading the abrasives ("grit") of polishing compounds as they do for sandpaper, so the following is based on personal experience. For hand polishing, I use "Blue Coral Liquid Fine Polishing Compound", followed by "Meguiar's Heavy Duty Car Cleaner Wax". Again, if the last grit you used for the sanding step was 2000, then it's unlikely that any sanding marks/scratches will be visible after polishing. If you still have a bit of dullness or cloudiness, then a coarser polish will be needed, followed by the wax. Polish 90 degrees from the direction in which you sanded, this will show you the level at which any scratches remain. Hope this is/was some help to anyone considering a bit of paint "finessing" ... Best regards, Dave