From: Jay Kempf [jkempf@mail.tds.net] Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2000 11:17 AM To: 928 Subject: [928] RE: Raising Car/Suspension Settling Mark, The front suspension of the car is very heavy and is cantilevered off of the inner fender walls(sides of the engine compartment). When you lift the car all of this weight flexes the top of the walls and delivers a twisting load at their rear edges where they are one with the firewall and windshield frame. Believe it or not bonded windshields actually carry some shear loads from their frames. The reason there is a warning in the (my) manuals is that this flexing can and will flex the windshield frame enough to damage the glass! The purpose of the bar is twofold. First and foremost it is in compression during cornering and transfers the bending load created by rolling into a corner transversly to the other side to keep things from to stiffen the front subchassis. Second when the car is lifted it goes in tension to keep the inner fender walls from flexing outward. I would strongly recommend you not remove this bar with the car on jack stands!!!!! You might get lucky but why take the chance. If you search the archives from about two years ago you will find a post from someone (can't remember the name right now) who took the chance you describe and had to replace his windshield as a result. Look for "CRAAAAAACK! in capital letters in the subject line. When I pulled my motor I disconnected all from below (as I have said) and then dropped the car back on it's tires. Then and only then did I remove the bar for the motor extraction. There is no need to do what you are suggesting. With a little planning it just isn't an issue. Also, about removing the lowers. I have never encountered a warning or heard anyone say that they have had trouble doing this. The lower front frame members are very large compared to the stiffeners in the upper fender wells. Maybe this is a factor. Jay Kempf