From: mark k [mkibort@compuserve.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 11:26 PM
To: 928
Subject: [928] Re: Latest Pano Art. on GT 3 NOW: Mine's faster than
your's

> Mark K.....long ago, you and I estimated that your 928 has a cost basis of
> about $40K, Mark A is around $100K, Dons is around $65K, about 10K less than
> mine, etc!  Sure we do alot of our own work, but you have to compare apples
> to apples...you know, street pricing!
> 
> If you are going to compare racers, you should use the real numbers
> 
> Lets keep it straight...racing is all about driver skill, weight, hp and to
> some degree tire size...in that order.
> 
> Marc
> DEVEK

Hey Marc,

yes, I remember the discussion.   No, Ive spent only $9-10k even to date
on the car.  Sure, ive had sponsor help in areas that werent absolutely
needed, but did make the car very nice.

Ive just recently totaled all the costs.  Also remember that I did have a
shop do a lot of the things I could have done, but wanted to make sure I
didnt miss anything.  (timing belt, waterpump, limited slip, front
shocks/springs change over, and headers as well as the clutch conversion
to 79-84,and flappy fix and weld swaybar mount.)   Now, even counting
this, the cost to me was around 8k, and that includes a paintjob, and all
new cage, and lots of nick nacks.  Sure, one of my sponsors was University
Autobody, who along with my nightly help, did a fantastic job in a quicky
paint job and interior coverup.  Retail, this would have been $6000 easy. 
The point is, you dont need this to make the S4  to race.  you probably
dont even need clutch conversion either.

So, at a base cost of 9,000 and 9k for the basic race conversion items,and
the list is pretty short.  Then, another $1-2k if you want to take the
next steps to get it from 2850lbs down to 2700lbs.

8k is made up from
 
$2500 header and exhaust installed. (and you dont really need to spend
this much)
$150 fuel reg
$400 seat
$140 belts
$1400 cage with net
$3000 wheels and tires
$1500 suspension installed  (old front springs used in rear, new front
eibachs, and bilstiens all the way around)$500 swaybar
$150 rear droplinks
$100 alignement at Wheel works set at a mild 1.4/1.9 degrees camber
front/R

Thats it!!  Now, Im not saying it will be as nice as the holbert car, or
will have some of my personal touches that didnt cost me anything.  but,
as long as you get a limited slip, S4 in decent shape, you are looking at
a supercar on the track for less than $20k, and that is unheard of by any
other manufacturer or model of porsche.

the above is street pricing,and i did have help from many folks, including
this 928LIST.

Thanks all!!!

The holbert car is off to  SCCA ITE this weekend at Laguna.

Mk



From: Mark Anderson [mailto:mark@928intl.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2003 12:04 PM
To: 928
Subject: [928] Re: Latest Pano Art. on GT 3 NOW: Mine's faster than your's

Marc,
It seems you use the same accounting practice my wife tries to use on me.
You can't add up all the fuel and tires I've used in the last 7 years.

1988 928 5sp     10,000  (Net after selling off interior and other parts)
6.5 engine       15,000 (remember I get parts at cost)
cage              2,500
fuel cell         1,000
rear bar            500
front bar           500
wing                650
twin disc clutch  1,000
seat                600
belts               150
fire system         400
battery             100
dry sump system   1,500
shocks            5,000 ( I got mine for free but they do have value)
big brakes        2,500 (free again)
wheels            2,500
suspension mods   1,000
misc fab work     5,000
steering wheel      100
my time               0  (I don't work on cars for a living, just for pleasure)

total            50,000 (out of pocket is actually much less as it is a pre
tax expense)