>> Does anyone have personal 0 - 60 times with their 928's. I was doing some >> tests with my '87 auto and the best I could do was 6.55 seconds. this seems >> very high compared to the factory specs. >> Regards >> Tom Csibor. From: Adam Spangler [aspangle@brinks.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 2:08 PM To: 928 Subject: [928] Re: 0 - 60 times I believe for an '87 A/T 6.3 seconds to 60 was the factory spec. Yours does not seem that far off, besides a 928 is not a "0-60" machine with the gearing it has....especially the 220 gear in the '87-'88 A/Ts. Adam S. '89 Black 5sp. '00 Audi S4 From: George A Suennen [jorj7@sis125.berkeley.edu] Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 2:13 PM To: 928 Subject: [928] Re: 0 - 60 times Tom, The "offical" times from Porsche was 6.3 seconds for the Auto, and 5.7 secs. for the Manual. So you're not to far from that if you have an Auto. George 81 Auto 90 S4 http://members.rennlist.org/jorj7 From: Steve Diver [framrguy@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 2:20 PM To: 928 Subject: [928] Re: 0 - 60 times My stock Auto 86.5 averaged 5.9 to 60 using a G-Tech. The only time I've gotten out of the GT is 7.2 seconds lol, but that was with a badly slipping clutch, I haven't had a chance to re-test since the new clutch is in. Cheers Steve From: PorschePHD@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 3:05 PM To: 928 Subject: [928] Re: 0 - 60 times Steve, I have a 91S4 equipped with AA chips. G-Tech in hand yielded a 5.7 0-60. Fairly aggressive launch. I would assume I could do better since I did these runs with ambient about 95 degrees. I wouldn't say that is optimum conditions, but couldn't wait :) Best, Stephen 91 928S4 5.7 0-60 79 TT930 3.1 0-60 From: Tom Cloutier [tomasc@pacbell.net] Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 1:34 AM To: 928 Subject: [928] Re: 0 - 60 times The best time I have recorded for my 1989 AT is 6.13 s as measured with a G Tech. This was with a non-stock exhaust system. Tom Cloutier 1989 S4 AT with a 5" meg --- "Pirtle, John" wrote: > Ha ha - I'm one of those new owners and my wife says > I drive like an old > man. :) I've noticed that those who have responded > have 5-speeds. What > about automatics? I feel like my rear tires will > never break loose. Maybe > they won't? I have an 87 Auto, option 220 (limited > slip), and young > 255/40ZR17 RE-71's on the rear. Should I be able to > break loose? How do I > do it? Or is all this simply going to stay > well-planted? > > John Pirtle > Atlanta > 87 Auto (not like I *want* to buy new tires....) > From: Steve Diver [framrguy@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 9:56 AM To: John Pirtle Subject: Re: [928] Re: Lightin' Em Up! Brake Torque - You'll be surprised what kind of off the line repsonse you get with the tires spinning. My old 86.5 Auto did 6.5 ish 0-60 w/o brake torquing, 5.9 with. Cheers Steve From: Steve Diver [framrguy@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 10:35 AM To: 928 Subject: [928] How to light them up with A/T Simple, Brake Torque! Com'on, this is standard drag race technique. Full brake, full throttle, release brake. Cheers Steve From: Walt Konecny [wkonecny@uswest.net] Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 11:02 AM To: 928 Subject: [928] Re: Lightin' Em Up! ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Shaeffer Subject: [928] Re: Lightin' Em Up! > Just mashing it to the floor did it with mine. In fact, I had to be careful > NOT to lay down a smoking patch. Mine's just a stock '85, 4-speed auto > (2.20:1). Kept it tuned, throttle and tranny cables adjusted, the usual > stuff. > > Dave Obviously harder to do once you put ph-phatter meats on the rears....also increasingly harder to do as you get higher above sea level (engine power output reduction). Any decent running 928 automatic at sea level elevations with fairly stock tires should be able to fill the wheel wells with smoke by just mashing the right-side pedal to the floor from a full stop. Oh no, here comes that "contact patch" thing again. wk From: V1UhOh@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 11:26 AM To: 928 Subject: [928] Re: Lightin' Em Up! In DRIVE One foot on brake...hold brake... apply throttle with other foot... load up the converter/build RPMs for a SPLIT SECOND OR TWO ONLY.... then at the same time foot off brake and floor throttle! Repeat when required : ) you WILL light them up...trust me Tony From: Dave Shaeffer [blauhai@sprynet.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 11:37 AM To: 928 Subject: [928] Re: 0 - 60 times >On Wed, 23 Aug 2000, Dave Shaeffer wrote: > >> >Anyone have factory specs on 86 S model, AT? for 0-60? >> >> >> Depending on where you look..... AT = 6.7, 5-spd = 6.2 >> I wouldn't pay much attention to those figures though. They are based on >> professional drivers. In the real world, that AT (if properly set up) will >> beat the manual, unless of course Hans Stuck (or someone equally good) is >> driving the 5-speed. > >Hi Dave, >I think it was Car and Driver (or Road and Track?) that got a 0-60 time of >5.5 seconds with an 86 5 speed. Obviously that was a professional driver, >so maybe the 6.2 reported by Porsche is more attainable? > >Mike >86 5spd Hi Mike, I just got my info out of the manuals.....like I said, I don't put much stock in "quoted" figures. I'm not, nor are any on the list(save 3-4) a driver with the skill even close to the level of the ones any of those figures are based on. I think Porsche (actually a well known fact) "adjusts" those figures to placate DOT, EPA, etc. Their HP, 0-60 times, are well known to be conservative. It's also a well know fact that an automatic transmission IS faster than a manual. Many people have a problem (ego related of course) dealing with this, but it's a fact. That's why F1 banned the damn things (and traction control, and, and, and)..... they wanted to put driver error/skill back into racing. Frankly, I don't really want to pursue this via the list. There are far too many fragile egos that take this meaningless stuff way to personal, and I'm just not up for the special delivery hate mail I'm sure to get out of this sort of thing anymore. I trust all is well with you? Best always, Dave From: Adam Birnbaum [adamb777@worldnet.att.net] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 7:35 PM To: 928 Subject: [928] Re: 0-60 Here's what my '88 S4 A/T did at the strip, I list the 60' times first, then the 1/4 mile E/T, then the trap speed. I always start in 2 and manually make the shift to third gear. If I could raise the rev limiter to 7K, I wouldn't have to shift at all. No powerbrake - 2.206 14.360 98.73 mph 1K powerbrake - 2.220 14.252 99.37 mph 1.5K powerbrake - 2.224 14.265 99.03 mph With no powerbraking the car had fairly inconsistent 1/4 mile times. With 1K powerbraking the car had very consistent 1/4 mile times. At 1.5K powerbraking, the car was definitely objecting at the tree. The driveline felt extremely loaded, and it took a lot of brake pedal effort to hold the car. Although the 60' times get worse with the powerbraking, the car always hooked up excellent. I never fully broke 'em loose at the start, never had to let up on the gas to regain traction. I do have LSD. Considering the type of suspension set up the S4 has, it launches pretty decent. I think the intimidation factor for a 928 is pretty high. We seemed to have more than a few seasoned domestic dragsters redlight against our 928 drag team. They would inevitably have the faster dial in, so we would get our tree first. Something about hearnig that Porsche V-8 wail and seeing the shark pull away at full accelaration made the domestics feel that they might not actually catch up by the end of the 1/4 mile. I had a guy come flying past me right before the finish line, and he was movin'! Went to pick up the ticket, "congrats, you won". Redlight. -Adam Birnbaum '88 S4 A/T