From: kittyandgary [kittyandgary@msn.com]
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 9:09 AM
To: 928
Subject: [928] GT/GTS clock connections for earlier car

Dear Kevin,

    I JUST completed installing my GTS clock in my '88 S4.  I like it very
much.

    I couldn't find ANYONE, including parts guys at the Porsche dealer who
was helpful in finding the right plastic insert "connector" with the female
electrical connectors for these clocks.  Here's how I resolved the problem:

    Go to an Audi dealer, take the clock, and tell them you want the female
wire connectors that slip over these pins.  They come as a yellow wire,
about 12 inches long with a female connector on both ends.  Buy two of the
wires.

    Cut the wires wherever, and solder on a male spade connector that is
appropriate for the female connections on the wiring harness in the car.  My
'88 had two medium and one (ground) small female receptors.  I cut the
yellow wires ~1/2 inch from the connector, stripped off the yellow
sheathing, and soldered on the correct wire (brown for ground, red for 12 V
+ to the clock, and black/blue for the variable intensity light bulb).  Put
the correct male connector on the other end.  I put some heat shrink tubing
over the soldered area AND the full length of the female connectors, so they
couldn't make contact with each other.  Slipped the female connectors on,
inserted the male portion on the other end of the wires into the female
receptors on the wiring harness and "Wunderbar" the clock works beautifully.

    That all sounds simple, but it took me 2 months to find the solution!!!!

    Good Luck,

Gary Knox
West Chester, PA



-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Berez [mailto:kaberez@mindspring.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 5:51 PM
To: 928
Subject: [928] Clock wiring


After a year on backorder my '90 analog clock arrived.  Woohoo!

Now, does anybody on this list know how to wire it to an '86?  I've blown a
fuse on my first attempt:(.

There are 3 male connectors pins on the clock.  Two of them are grouped
together.
Looks like this:

X
X

X

Anybody BTDT?

-Kevin




From: 928intl.com [mailto:Mark@928intl.com]
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 10:55 AM
To: 928
Subject: [928] RE: Clock wiring


Our catalog shows the order but it is as follows;

ground
empty
12v from lights
12v constant




From: kittyandgary [mailto:kittyandgary@msn.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 8:21 AM
To: 928
Subject: [928] Clock Hands - correct color


Dear Andy,

    I recently purchased a GTS clock to install in my '88 S4.  The GTS clock
had white hands and the '88 S4 has a mostly red, but slight orange
"fluorescent" colored hands on the dash instruments.  This is what I did to
get the clock hands to "almost match" the instrument hands:

    First, I painted the clock hands with a fairly dark red paint (used a
typical "touch up" bottle of red, about the same shade as the red in the
Porsche crest).

   After that had fully cured, I then took a spray can of Plasti-Kote
Industrial Marking Paint (used for parking lot marking etc. and is designed
to spray "upside down") that was color 1691:red/orange fluorescent - bought
it at Pep Boys.  I sprayed a little of this in a plastic cup, then used a
fine artist brush to paint a very thin coating on top of the red clock
hands.  When this dried, it is so close in color that to a casual observer
they look the same (However, if you put them side by side, then the clock
hands probably look slightly more orange than the instrument hands).

    I'm sure there may be simpler ways to get there, but this worked for me.

Gary Knox
West Chester, PA




From: JMAGOLAN@aol.com [mailto:JMAGOLAN@aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 7:57 PM
To: 928
Subject: [928] 1991 GT Clock Replacement Procedure


I finally found the time (and courage) to replace the analog clock, which had failed, in the GT. Following is my procedure, for anyone who is interested.
1) remove the carpeted console side panel on the passenger's 
   side. There are 4 phillips head screws, two on the side of 
   the console in the carpeted panel (below the switches, and
   at the bottom of the panel at the plane of the central 
   locking switch), one accessible by opening the glove box 
   (all three of these point toward the console) and the 
   fourth pointed strait up into the dash above the passenger 
   foot well. This allows better access behind the center 
   console instruments.
2) Remove the stereo head unit.
3) Remove and disconnect the ashtray.
4) Remove the rear A/C knobs. These just pop off. Use a flat
   blade screwdriver to remove the circular nuts from the A/C
   control shafts. 
5) Remove the center vent gently with a putty knife between the
   vent frame and dash, from above.
6) Remove the trim piece from around the climate control and 
   central lock panels. NOTE: I am not sure that steps 5 and 6 
   are absolutely necessary, but I did them to be sure that
   everything was free.
7) As my car is a five speed, I also lifted the trim frame 
   around the shift lever to be sure that the trim piece around
   the clock/AC/shift assembly was free.
8) The clock assembly is sandwiched between the console frame  
   and the above mentioned trim piece. This trim piece can now 
   be gently pulled toward the rear of the car and up toward 
   the ceiling, and removed. Note that the rear of this piece
   (at the switches) need to be pulled toward the front of the 
   car, hence the motion is somewhat rotational with a pulling
   and lifting motion at the clock, rotating around an 
   imaginary line running from door to door.
9) Remove the old clock toward the interior of the car and 
   unplug the wiring harness from the back of the old clock. 
   Replace it with the new clock.
10)Reverse the procedure to reassemble the console.


Jerry Magolan
1991 928GT (Black/Cashmere)
President, Hurricane Region, PCA
928OC, Charter Member