From: Bobarino91@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 8:23 PM To: 928 Subject: [928] GTS mirror upgrade wiring SOLVED! if anyone is interested, here is how to wire the GTS mirrors into your S4/GT wiring in your existing to the GTS wiring harness,-------------->mirror wiring connect the: harness (4 wire plug) gray/yellow--------------------->gray green/brown-------------------->green brown/yellow------------------->pink yellow/green-------------------->yellow (6 wire plug) brown----------------------------->brown gray/green---------------------->brown white/gray----------------------->white black------------------------------>black blue/red--------------------------->blue AND red wires first color is the main color, second color is the stripe ie. COLOR/STRIPE i'll try to make a whole proceedure and write it down and post it to the list soon. take care all... Bobby '91 GT From: Andy [mailto:andy@idealmec.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 12:36 PM To: 928 Subject: [928] Re: GTS mirrors on a GT'89 > Hello List ! > > I already emailed Bobby (aka Bobarino91) in private and he helped me a lot > with my mirror upgrade (thanks a lot again Bobby). But I still have a doubt > because he's been told that I can use the motors out of my flag mirrors in > the GTS mirrors (the wires will still have to be cut and spliced as it is > impossible to get the plugs through the small holes). But Bobby can't > guarantee it will work since he hasn't tried himself. > Can anyone confirm/infirm this information ? > Thanks a lot in advance > Alex Alex, the motors off of your '89 flag-type mirrors will work on the newer GTS mirrors as model year 1989 also uses the same locking ring type mount that will fastens the new mirror glass to the older motor face. Since you have the seat/mirror memory option on your '89, you will be needing the newer AMP micro connectors that come with the GTS Aero Mirror kit as space is very limited within the mirror housing curvature. If you purchased the mirror housings/mounts separately, the part numbers are as follows:(2x)928 612 615 00 Large female connector housing,(2x)928 612 515 01 Large male connector housing,(2x)964 612 516 00 Small female connector housing,(2x)964 612 616 00 Small male connector housing. You will also need the miniature crimp/solder wire connectors as follows:(30x)999 652 711 10 Female connector,(15x)999 652 710 10 Male connector. You can either use a pin removal tool to remove the wires from the old flat-type connectors or, since you will be using the newer AMP micro connectors, cut the wires close to the old wire connectors and crimp/solder in the new ones once your mirrors have been assembled. Andy Evangelidis '91 928S4 horizon blue/cobalt From: stadter928@att.net [mailto:stadter928@att.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 1:14 PM To: 928 Subject: [928] FW: GTS mirrors on a GT'89 > Alex, > > I upgraded my '88 to GTS mirrors and didn't have any > problems using the flag mirror motors in the new mirrors. > The only difference I recall is that the motor body is > either slightly thinner or slightly thicker than the GTS > motors, so I bought six new motor-to-mirror housing > screws to accomodate this. Additionally, I kept my > original wiring harness completely intact with no > problems at all. You will need to get an AMP tool that > allows you to remove the wires from the connectors in > order to fit them through the small hole in the mirror > base, but once you do that, you can just slide the wires > back into the connectors and you're good to go. > Splicing wires and following schematics to mate the new > wires to the old seemed like way too much overkill after > I saw how easily everything fit together using the new > mirror bodies and the old electrics. > Note that my car has sport seats, so it does not have > any of the memory functions which tie seat movement in > with automatic mirror adjustment. Not sure how your car > is set up, but a GT should have sport seats, so your's > should be the same as mine. > You can write me tomorrow at my jstadter@logicon.com > address if you have additional questions. Also, if you > wouldn't mind posting this response to the general list > for me, I'd appreciate it. > Good luck. > > Jim -- Jim Stadter '83 928 S 5-speed (U.S. spec) '88 928 S4 5-speed Hill Country Region PCA (Austin) 928OC From: stadter928@att.net [mailto:stadter928@att.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 1:15 PM To: 928 Subject: [928] FW: GTS mirrors on a GT'89 > Alex, > > I bought an "AMP" tool (also known as a contact > extractor tool) made by Lisle at a local autoparts > store. The Lisle tool part number is 56500. > http://www.lislecorp.com/tools/catalog/electrical/index.htm > > Also, here's an old post from the list about the real AMP tool: > > You can buy the tool from Digi-Key (http://www.digikey.com/). DR > > provided the AMP part# as #305183 contact extraction tool. > It's Digi-Key > > part# A1329-ND and lists for $16.80 (plus shipping & $4 for mininum > > order). There is probably also one from Radio Shack/Tech > America but I couldn't get enough info to be certain enough to order. > The AMP tool works magnificently. > > After you get the electrics figured out, the next hardest > part of the job is compressing the heavy spring that sits in > the mirror base. I ended up making a miniature spring compressor > out of a bolt, some washers, and a piece of scrap metal and it > worked out well. Other than that, the installation is > straightforward. > > Jim -- Jim Stadter '83 928 S 5-speed (U.S. spec) '88 928 S4 5-speed Hill Country Region PCA (Austin) 928OC